Juror B37 found it hard to understand what witness Rachel Jeantel was talking about.
And after the jurors acquitted George Zimmerman in the death of Jeantel's friend Trayvon Martin, the feeling certainly was mutual.
After a trial that divided many Americans by their views on race, guns and self-defense, CNN's exclusive interviews with the witness and the juror Monday night illustrated their starkly different frames of reference.
They disagreed about whether Zimmerman racially profiled Martin when he saw him walking through a Sanford, Fla., neighborhood.
But much more than race separated their perception of what happened the evening of February 26, 2012.
When is it reasonable to suspect wrongdoing by a teenager walking through a neighborhood? Is a neighborhood watch volunteer a helpful member of the community or a "cracka" trying to wear the authority of a police officer? Does the jargon of a 19-year-old witness demonstrate her lack of education or an older generation's lack of awareness?
The role of race
Race was perhaps the simplest disagreement.
"It was racial. Let's be honest, racial. If Trayvon was white and he had a hoodie on, would that happen?" the 19-year-old Jeantel asked on CNN's "Piers Morgan Live."
But the juror, who requested anonymity and sat in darkness on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360," said the jury of six women -- five white and one an unspecified minority -- never talked about racial profiling.
"I think all of us thought race did not play a role," she said.
So why did Zimmerman suspect Martin might be up to no good?
The juror sided with Zimmerman's account, and said Martin "was cutting through the back" of the neighborhood "looking into houses."
"He was stopping and starting," she said. "It was late at night, dark at night, raining. And anybody would think anybody walking down the road, stopping and turning and looking, if that's exactly what happened, is suspicious."
Not to Jeantel.
It was shortly after 7 p.m., she said, a time when typically people might be out walking their dogs, not plotting burglaries.
And if anyone should have been alarmed, it was Martin, she said.
He told her in their now-famous phone call that a man was following him, and she said she warned him it could be a rapist.
Parents tell children to fear such people, Jeantel said. Otherwise, "you're going to see your child on the news, missing person."
She expressed disbelief any of the jurors who were parents would not understand that.
Juror B37 did not disclose biographical information in her CNN interview. According to HLN, CNN's sister network, she has been married 20 years and has two adult children.
'Phrases I have never heard'
Jeantel testified Martin told her on the phone that a "creepy-ass cracka" was following him as he returned home from a convenience store run for a bag of Skittles and a can of Arizona iced tea.
In the CNN interview, she said "cracka" is a term for someone who wants to act like a police officer. She said it was not the same as calling a white person a "cracker."